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Re: Benefits of Stigmatizing
From: Werner Luehmann
Date: 2010 Oct 9, 12:34 +0200
From: Werner Luehmann
Date: 2010 Oct 9, 12:34 +0200
I think Gary got it right for the reason why and when (periscopic) sextants were used last with commercial airlines (big jets). I definitely can confirm that with the arrival of the INS in the 747s in the early 70s (other aircraft such as 707's where modified as well) the sexants were disabandoned. I know that because in the mid seventies, when I was en engineering student, I attended a lecture of the (then already for years retired) Chief Navigator of Lufthansa German airlines. He told us those facts. No naviagtors, no sextants any more. Later - as an graduated engineer - a joined Lufthansa's technical division (I am still there) my engineering colleagues also said that sextants were not overhauled any more since the early seventies (at least not for use with Lufthansa). A major driver for the airlines certainly was the possibility to save one crew member. Cost for cockpit crews were and are still an important factor in aircraft Direct Operating Cost (DOC) . The last victim so far being the flight engineer (startet about with the introduction of AIRBUS A310). I am hearing already discussions in the aviation community for a single-pilot-cockpit (commercial). We'll see. Werner -------------- > The use of LORAN and Doppler and, obviously > celestial, still required a navigator onboard so they were not > eliminated until the development of INS installed in Boeing 747s that > first entered service in 1970. INS is also a form of dead reckoning but > its rate of drift is less than one nautical mile per hour so was precise > enough for oceanic navigation. But it required three independent INS's > on each aircraft for redundancy so was an expensive proposition but must > have been less expensive that paying he salary of the navigators. > > gl ------------------