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Re: Any happy/unhappy Astra IIIB owners here?
From: Dan Allen
Date: 2001 Apr 20, 8:02 PM
From: Dan Allen
Date: 2001 Apr 20, 8:02 PM
The kind of accuracy that these units are spec'd to (12" or 20" of arc) is rarely seen in practice on a rolling boat. Errors of 1-3 miles are common and are acceptable for many navigational situations (mid-ocean). However, if you want to do almost surveying quality measurements, that's where a high power scope and the best quality sextants are needed. I continue to test my abilities by using an artificial horizon (the Davis one) in my backyard. I set the sextant to an even angle, say 30 degrees or something near to where the sun is about to be. I think swing the sextant until the sun gets right on the money, without adjusting the sextant. The minute it is perfect I then glance at my GPS or accurate watch and record the time next to the angle which I had already written down. I take a series of 10 of these measurements over as many minutes, and then I use Metcalf's nav.c to do the statistical analysis of my sights. I have the artificial horizon for my Astra, but only used it once. I prefer the Davis mainly because I can use it with any of my sextants and I don't need to keep taking on and off the scopes. Separately I'll post cnav.c Dan -----Original Message----- From Navigation Mailing List [mailto:NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM]On Behalf Of Yves Arrouye Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 6:41 PM To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM Subject: Re: Any happy/unhappy Astra IIIB owners here? > I own quite a few metal sextants, and my measurements > indicate that Tamaya > and Plath are more accurate than the Astra. I have seen used > Tamaya Jupiter > sextants sell for about the same as an Astra IIIb and I think > I would prefer > a Jupiter over an Astra given the choice, but you will be > quite happy with a > new Astra as well. Celestaire's brochure gives 20" of accuracy for the Astra IIIB against 12" for the Jupiter. I wish the Astra IIIB had a bronze arc, if that's the secret in the reduction of precision. I've always wondered: how accurate is a good sextant user? I mean, is 20" going to be a limiting factor? That's an error of about 1/3 of a mile compared to 1/5 mile for the Tamaya Jupiter, right? YA P.S.: Dan, while reading your thread about your sextant accuracy at http://www.i-DEADLINK-com/lists/navigation/9903/0042.html you're mentionning Tom Metcalf's nav.c. Where can I find that and the relevant litterature? Do I need to get back issues of the journal of the institute for navigation? Another question related to what you wrote there: how's the Davis artificial horizon compared to the practice bubble horizon sold by Celestaire?