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    Re: Afm 51-40
    From: Gary LaPook
    Date: 2010 Oct 27, 22:50 -0700

    I almost never use Internet Explorer, I only use if if I am having a
    problem with a website while using my usual browser, Firefox. If your
    theory is correct then it might have been possible that I inadverently
    changed some setting on Firefox that prevented me from getting clickable
    links when I read postings on your website. That I why, as a test, I
    fired up Internet Explorer to see if the same problem showed up with
    that browser and it did convincing me that the problem was not at my end.
    Now I am getting clickable links with Firefox on the recent messages
    leading you to believe that I made another, inadvertent change to my
    Firefox so I decided to try another test. If you are correct I should be
    able to go back to old posts where I didn't get clilckable links and
    they should now be clickable. Guess what, they aren't. I repeated the
    same experiment I did on October 26th at 1:57:
    "This is another example of the problem that I (and apparently others)
    are having with links contained in postings to this website.
    The message below from Richard Pisko contains four links but when I read
    it on the website using both Firefox and Internet Explorer none of the
    four come up as links, they are not underlined or blue. The two with
    brackets do not appear as links so Richard's suggestion doesn't solve
    the problem. But when I read this message as an email, both as a web
    mail using Firefox to access my email and also using an e-mail reader,
    Thunderbird, a POP reader, all four links show up as underlined and
    blue. This shows that the link information is contained in the message
    so why don't they show as links on the website? "
    I was referring to this message by Richard Pisko:
    I just went to this message with both of my browsers and the links still
    do not show up as clickable.  If you were right and I had just made some
    change to my Firefox (I haven't been using Internet Explorer) the links
    should have come up now as clickable and they don't. But they still come
    up as clickable in my email reader, Thunderbird.
    So, I still think it is something at your end Frank.
    On 10/27/2010 9:37 PM, Frank Reed wrote:
    > Gary, you wrote:
    > "Well, now the links are showing up as clickable links in my browser
    > on the website, A good development but mysterious."
    > LOL, Gary. It's likely that *YOU* did that on your end. I haven't
    > touched a thing in the (active) NavList code in weeks. :)
    > All sorts of different "agents" work to modify NavList messages and
    > web pages. Email software with user-modifiable settings, my processing
    > software, web browsers with more settings, and still other software
    > will modify the appearance of layout, fonts, clickable features, etc.
    > especially when copied from one to another (for example, when you
    > reply to an email and your email software includes the entire message
    > you are replying to at the bottom, the copied version is frequently
    > marked up differently from the original and may include clickable
    > links, kindly inserted by your email software). And sometimes a
    > "convenience" for one user becomes an inconvenience for another. For
    > example, many software packages have begun making telephone numbers
    > "clickable" since so many people are now browsing the web from mobile
    > phones or from computers that are set up for telephony. My phone does
    > this to every web site I visit, and it really is convenient. That's
    > great, until it's not, as George Huxtable discovered a few months ago
    > when some browser add-on converted his tables of numbers into
    > clickable phone numbers. For every convenience, there is a cost. Next
    > you'll see "smilies" converted into graphics (not by me, but by some
    > web browser you use). These little text-based emoticons have been
    > around for decades. I first encountered them in 1991 and I distinctly
    > remembering asking someone online if there was a bug since some of
    > their sentences ended with a colon and a close parenthesis :). Well,
    > there are software designers out there who are determined to make
    > "smilies" more convenient so that no one will ever have to ask that
    > question again, and so they are displaying them as little yellow smile
    > graphics like that miserable thing from the 70s, while others are
    > turning them into smiling robots and space aliens (that's what happens
    > on Android phones today). Ahh, progress. See, this is why we went to
    > the Moon...!
    > -FER
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