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Re: Advice concerning sextants
From: Hewitt Schlereth
Date: 2010 Feb 23, 20:08 -0400
From: Hewitt Schlereth
Date: 2010 Feb 23, 20:08 -0400
Ken - In 1980 I taught one-week celestial courses to two groups of six people. Each student was supplied with a Davis Mark 25 with the full-horizon mirror. We got uniformly good results, morning, day and evening; sun, moon, stars and planets. After this experience with the Davis 25's, I got a full-horizon mirror for my C. Plath and never switched back to the traditional one. It worked fine for me in all conditions. Hewitt On 2/23/10, Ken Gebhartwrote: > George, > I do not agree that the total must equal 100%. Neglecting absorption, I > agree that light going through the mirror in one direction would have > reflection and transmission adding up to 100%. But where light goes through > in both directions, with the proper coating on the glass, the sum could be > greater than 100%. I believe that was the whole idea of the invention of > whole horizon type mirrors (Allview, Transflex, etc.) Am I wrong? > > Does anyone else care to jump in on this? > > Ken > > On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:42 PM, George Huxtable wrote: > > > > Ken Gebhart wrote- > > > > "...2. Whole horizon mirrors do not divide the light. They have a > > specialized coating which transmits a large percentage of light, while at > > the same time reflects a large percentage of light. > > > > I don't fully understand what Ken's saying here, but whatever it is, I'm > > inclined to disagree. > > > > Such a mirror can reflect some light, transmit some light, and absorb some > > light. The total has to add up to 100% of the incident light. It can't > > create light that wasn't there. So it DOES divide the light, as best it > can, > > between reflecting and transmitting, absorbing as little as possible. What > > else is Ken telling us? > > > > The most pithy description of whole-horizon mirrors is that they make easy > > sights easier, and difficult sights harder. But I've had very little > > personal experience with such mirrors, so am not competent to express an > > opinion. > > > > George. > > > > contact George Huxtable, at george@hux.me.uk > > or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222) > > or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ken Gebhart" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:15 PM > > Subject: [NavList] Re: Advice concerning sextants > > > > > > |I would like to make two comments about Jim's posts: > > | 1. Bigger mirrors do not give more light. (Is your image while > > | shaving with a large bathroom mirror brighter than with a small one?) > > | 2. Whole horizon mirrors do not divide the light. They have a > > | specialized coating which transmits a large percentage of light, > > | while at the same time reflects a large percentage of light. > > | > > | Ken > > | On Feb 22, 2010, at 11:40 PM, James N Wilson wrote: > > | > > | > John reminds me of my first experience with the whole horizon sextant > > | > mirror, which I called the half silvered mirror, was that finding the > > | > horizon in dim light was difficult. I found no advantages, in that the > > | > sun and moon images can be seen in the clear part of the mirror, > > | > aiding > > | > in bringing them down. > > | > > > | > Now, if someone would make a horizon mirror that was half silvered on > > | > only the left side, that might be worth something. But I might > > | > still have > > | > the same problem at twilight, where I need all the light available > > | > to see > > | > the horizon. > > | > > > | > I'm sure that the article mentioned noted that half silvered > > | > mirrors (one > > | > way glass) allow only a portion of the light to pass. When we > > | > remodeled > > | > our bath, we had one installed in our shower for privacy. The room was > > | > significantly darkened, and plants wouldn't grow. The amount of light > > | > reduction is significant. > > | > > > | > Jim Wilson > > | > > ____________________________________________________________ > > | > Nutrition > > | > Improve your career health. Click now to study nutrition! > > | > > cp=NVIXY2oLGPGa1TCho6UV4QAAJ1D3lHlZVltl3Pnu3pZYfILRAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > > | > AAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASQwAAAAA= > > | > > > | > > > | > > | > > | > > | > > > > > > > > > > > > >