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Re: 3-Star Fix - "Canned Survival Problem"
From: Greg R_
Date: 2008 Jun 14, 01:54 -0700
From: Greg R_
Date: 2008 Jun 14, 01:54 -0700
With the exception of the red numbers on the outside rings, your MB-2A computer looks remarkably similar to the Jeppesen CR series (CR-3, CR-6, etc.) - is it maybe a military version (or an earlier version)of the Jepp one? And I assume this isn't the other calculator that you alluded to earlier (Barger, or something similar?) - it's late and I can't find that particular post right now. -- GregR --- "Gary J. LaPook"wrote: > Gary J. LaPook wrote: > > > Being the conscientious navigator that I am, I followed my usual > > practice of memorizing some data from the 2008 Nautical Almanac so > > that I would have it available for emergency use. > > > > The first thing I memorized was the GHA of Aires at 0000 Z January > 1, > > 2008 which is 100� 01.9' and also remembering that Aires advances > > 59.139' each day. With this information you can calculate GHA Aires > > > for 0000 Z on June 9, 2008 which is the 161st day of the year but > is > > only 160 days from January 1st. So multiplying 59.139' times 160 > days > > gives 157� 42.2' to which you add the starting value of 100� > 01.9' > > to come up with the GHA Aires on June 9th at 0000 Z of 257� 44.1'. > To > > this you add the change of GHA for the time since 0000 Z (3 hours > 42 > > minutes 10 seconds for the Vega shot) by multiplying the time > interval > > by the rate of change of 15.041� per hour making 55� 41.6' making > the > > GHA Aires at the time of the Vega shot of 313 � 25.7'. > > > > I also memorized the SHAs and the Declinations of ten of the > > navigation stars ( nobody could memorize all 57) which should be > > enough for emergency use as tabulated for July 1st so that the > values > > will be reasonable for the whole year. Fortunately this included > the > > three stars used in this exercise. So now adding the SHA of Vega, > 80� > > 41' we end up with the GHA of Vega of 34� 06.7' and using the D.R. > as > > the A.P. we get an LHA of 274� 48' and the declination of 38� 47' > N. > > (rounded to the whole minute) > > > > Using these values on my Bygrave slide rule (see attached work > sheet) > > since I have no tables with me, I computed Hc of 23� 59'. > > > > The Hs given was 24� 05.5' Computing the dip correction in my head > of > > 4.5' (the square root of 20 must be between 4 and 5 ) and applying > the > > refraction correction of minus 2 gives an Ho of 23� 59' giving and > > intercept of zero and an azimuth of 58.1 �. I long ago memorized > the > > refraction table for altitudes above 10� in The Air Almanac and in > H.O > > 249, the cutoff values are 63-33-21-16-12-10� , zero above 63, 1 > above > > 33, 2 above 21, 3 above 16, 4 above 12 and 5 above 10. > > > > I used the same procedure for Spica and Pollux getting another zero > > > intercept for Pollux, Zn of 290.2� and a 4 NM away for Spica with > a > > Zn of 171.7�. > > > > Since I am on the road I do not have any of my plotting tools with > me > > so I had to make do with what I found in my briefcase. I used my > MB-2A > > flight computer since it had an azimuth scale and I used a pad of > > paper with a right angle at the corner as my straight edge for > > plotting the LOPs. I used a tape measure from IKEA to measure the > > length of the intercept (see photo.) I plotted the LOPs and found > the > > fix by bisecting the three angles giving a fix .4 NM west of the > A.P. > > (D.R.) and 2.8 NM north of it. (Plotting a fix as a distance from > the > > A.P. like this is common in aerial practice and it is often done on > an > > E-6B.) Adding the 2.8 NM north to the D.R. latitude gives a fix > > latitude of 34� 16' North. To convert the .4 NM west to a > longitude > > you divide the .4 NM by the cosine of the latitude, .82, to find > the > > difference in longitude of .5' so the fix longitude is 119� 19.5' > > West (rounded to either 119� 19' or 20'.) ( I got the cosine of > 34� > > by finding the sine of 56� on the MB-2A sine scale, used for wind > > correction calculations.) > > > > My fix might not be in agreement with others but I used a > refraction > > table tabulated in whole minutes, I only memorized the stars' > > positions to the nearest minute and I did not have any plotting > tools > > to use but my position is certainly good enough for emergency > > navigation and done without an almanac, tables or electrons. > > > > gl > > 1 > > > > m_burkes@msn.com wrote: > > > >>Captain Lecky would be proud of those dividers ha! Speaking of > >>interpolation I have found a neat way to get around that pesky DSD > and > >>interpolation tables by using the aviation E6B computer or the > >>equivalent nautical slide rule. Essentially the set > up:d-value/60=d- > >>correction/declination minutes. Yes the calculator offers the > proof. > >>Mike Burkes > >>On Jun 12, 11:44 pm, Anabasi...@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Thanks for the nice exercise Greg. I literally had to dust off > the ship's > >>>Vol III of HO 229 and deflower a Plotting sheet 925 to work this > one out. > >>> > >>>Since I was bereft of electronic gadgets, I did this with a > plotting sheet, > >>>2 triangles, a pair of dividers, 2 books, a pencil, and small > piece of scratch > >>> paper (wouldn't have reams of paper in the Lifeboat). I have > attached a > >>>picture in to this message with the plot and the tools. > >>> > >>>My Lat is a bit lower (plotting or math error?). I used an > assumed position > >>>method and HO 229. I had to assume we were drifting and no > current (didn't > >>>advance or retard the lines). I had not done a full HO 229 paper > reduction > >>>of a star in many years, and I had to think a second to remember > how to use > >>>the interpolation pages on the inside covers for the declination > interpolation. > >>> I usually whip those off with the calculator. Still, I got > pretty close to > >>>the computer solutions with Lat 34deg 11.9' N and Longitude > 119deg 16.0'W. > >>> > >>>As to how you would get an Eastern sight on the west coast, you > would have 2 > >>>options in general. The first would be a back sight. This would > be > >>>particularly difficult with a regular sextant at such a low > altitude. The other > >>>option would be to use a bubble sight tube or other artificial > horizon. If you > >>>were across a bay, you could also use a dip short of the horizon > table. > >>>That's all I can think of at the moment. > >>> > >>>Jeremy > >>> > >>>**************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. > City's Best > >>>2008. 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