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Re: 0000 not 2400?
From: Dave Weilacher
Date: 2004 Oct 18, 14:10 -0700
From: Dave Weilacher
Date: 2004 Oct 18, 14:10 -0700
0000 vs 2400 12am vs 12pm You guys may be getting ready to stumble onto the missing link (universal unifying theory) of quantum mechanics. -----Original Message----- From: Fred HebardSent: Oct 18, 2004 2:00 PM To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM Subject: Re: 0000 not 2400? On Oct 18, 2004, at 2:51 PM, George Huxtable wrote: > Time has a history that goes a long way back, as is clear by the > famiiarity > we have with clocks marked in Roman numbers. Without a symbol for > zero, or > the idea that you could count and measure things starting at zero > rather > than starting at one, how would you mark midday, logically, in Roman > numerals? Can't be done! So we have been stuck to an illogical > numbering > for those two hours each day, even though, for most clocks, we have > since > changed to an Arabic numbering system in which zero presents no > problem. > > To widen it further, isn't it another absudity that our date-of-the > month > start at one, rather than zero? > > As a result, calculating the interval between two events with known > dates > and times, becomes a real nightmare, to do longhand or to write a > program > to do it. > > I will avoid refrain from discussing years, decades, centuries, and > millennia, in the interests of my blood-pressure. > > George. The following may have some bearing on a psychological aversion to zero related to the late development of the concept. When talking about the age of trees, one commonly refers to how many years old they are. However, people have great difficulty understanding the statement, "this tree is zero years old." For human babies, we sidestep the question by saying the baby is x months old, or y days old, or z hours old. I suspect that would help with trees too. I always found modulo arithmetic or algebra very confusing, and still do. But even without the added difficulty of the cyclic nature of time, measuring the distance between two points can lead to confusion: there are 11 separate numbers from 0 to 10, including the zero. On good days, I can keep that straight, usually by counting on my fingers. Fred Dave Weilacher .IBM AS400 RPG contract programmer